This year, the Viva Roda program Tv Culture , that counted on the iconic music of Chico Buarque in its opening, will complete 32 years. Among his numerous interviews, with historical editions, will have his 7 edition tomorrow with Ciro Gomes.
On 1991, the very young and precocious governor of Ceará had not learned 33 when he participated in his first interview, and still holding the same position, he returned to the program on 1993. There are few available records of these two participations. However, in the following interviews, the maturation, in a broad sense, is done visibly, in the continuous lapidation of the academic's reflections, in the adjustment of the perspective of politician, in the traquejo of the public man who, still in 1991 did not shy away from debates and confrontations. The country that changed so much between the beginning of the decade of 1990 and 2005 (last participation of Ciro Gomes in Roda Viva), insists on not changing and still poses as central issues the redesign of the Brazilian state and political instability and economy.
Tomorrow, Ciro Gomes enters again in the circle of sabbath of Roda Viva with more time of public life, 38 years, than it had of life in its first participation. To point out the changes from that Ciro to Cyrus pre-candidate for the presidency of the republic for the third time is easy, as easy as realizing the constants that have always marked his career.
I say what I think
The third program with Ciro Gomes, then Minister of Finance of the Itamar Franco government, in 1994, the presenter Heródoto Barbeiro introduced his guest in a very peculiar way:
"The Minister of Finance, Ciro Gomes. Deputy state, mayor of Fortaleza and Governor of Ceará, all this almost 37 years old. Life runs fast for Ciro Gomes, despite the speed, if the minister were compared today to a vehicle the most appropriate image would not be that of a Formula 1, but of a tractor. It's that Ciro Gomes is usually firm in his opinions ... "
Followed by a question about his temperament and his vocabulary ( the press also has its evidence ). To which Cyrus, as he still does, replied: "I do not mean that this is right no, I mean that this is me. I'll tell you what I think. "
Cyrus, as a tractor , firmly defended the solidity of the Real Plan and the need to act to protect it in order to free the country from the problem of hyperinflation, and to undertake, at the beginning of the next government that would begin in a few months, the profound reforms structural reforms that Brazil needed. Expectation he would have thwarted in very little ... as shown in the interview of 1995.
Plutocrats, oligarchs and corporations
Preparing to return from Harvard on 1995, and concluding his research done in partnership with Professor Roberto Mangabeira Unger, Ciro returns to Roda Viva with an emphasis on his reflections on Brazil, then synthesized in the book The next step: a practical alternative to neoliberalism . In this work, he proposed to think about the political causes of hyperinflation in the country that were not accidental or purely economic, but a political choice driven by precise and powerful interests:
"The three major interests that sustained upward inflation from the Brazilian state itself are: plutocrats, oligarchs and corporations. What you mean? Plutocrats are all those who engage in speculation and live the privilege of not suffering from inflation because they manipulate indexed currencies. The great capital remains indexed, in practice, by these great interest rates imposed by the government itself. "
Some time later, Ciro would unfold this understanding in understanding the lucrative new game that replaced hyperinflation in the interests of plutocracy: financial speculation at exorbitant interest rates .
It was with this question that the candidate for the presidency of the republic for the second time, appeared in Roda Viva in 2002.
Neo-liberals and surrenderers
In this year, Cyrus was part of a Presidential Roda Viva, with a government project that clearly unfolded his earlier reflections but incorporated an even more compelling critique of the severe effects on the population of neo-liberal politics that had been conducted in the last 8 years and resulted in several crises. In replying to the anchor, Carlos Alberto Sardenberg, on which political spectrum his candidacy was based, Ciro stated:
"Our proposal is center-left, but we want to translate that proposal beyond superficial adjectives. Translating this into a concrete proposal: a state model and state-economic relationship that, on the one hand, accepting private initiative, builds a state model that balances opportunities. "Complementing that his main opponent, then represented by the candidate were "those who represent the neo-liberal ideology, which has produced millions of miserable people, those who represent the world of international Business and the assassination that followed the privatization process in Brazil. "
Enough of small talk
After the elections, invited by President Lula to the Ministry of National Integration, where he remained from 2003 to 2006, Ciro was again invited to Roda Viva in 2005, which discussed the implementation of the Rio transposition project San Francisco. With all the data and the Brazilian topography on the tip of the tongue, in the style of Ciro Gomes, the minister vigorously defended the project he was directing and the need to finally defeat the drama of the drought that directly affected three million people: of small talk on this subject, we will solve! "
In 2018, after more turns of this wheel, the severity of several of these problems only became accentuated, deepened by the drama of an illegitimate government and Ciro will have again the opportunity to expose, saying what he thinks and being who he is, a country project even more matured.
Roda Viva - Tv Culture
28/05/2018 at 22 h15
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